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		<title>crit request: Skyblaze, Helios, Astral Inferno</title>
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				<title>Re: crit request: Skyblaze, Helios, Astral Inferno</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2023 21:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Aye, many thanks Oligarch. I believe I owe you something too, down the road for some favors you have done for me in the past. I'm finishing some stuff for <em>Migratory Snowbird</em> (crit link is in this forum but has not been answered), I'm not sure if you're interested in taking a look over or not, seeing how it's almost close to being released, but I would appreciate an extra pair of eyes, if possible.</p> 
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				<title>Re: crit request: Skyblaze, Helios, Astral Inferno</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2023 04:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I hazard to believe it's ready now, after an almost complete overhaul. There were some things off about the DNA of this, but gene-therapy has made leaps and bounds in these few days. Thank you for your work in reviewing, it would have been much worse a poem without your help. And it would be much better a poem if I took more of your help, but perhaps then not enough of myself would be in its blood. Your style is so infectious I think I may need an antiviral prescription! But, as to preserve both of our circulatory systems, I've capped it off. In all seriousness, thank you.<br /> I owe you one (something or other). Need anything, I'm probably out there wasting time doing something awful like studying, and would much rather help you in doing something important, ha.<br /> &#8212;Oli</p> 
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				<title>Re: crit request: Skyblaze, Helios, Astral Inferno</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2023 00:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I gave your reworked passages a read through&#8212;the flow's much better in terms of concept presentation. Now that a day or two has passed with time to mull over your concern about the poem's impressions of science being 'awe', a metaphorical tapestry of rapture pinned solely to let the sunlight trace its repeating print instead to shield the room from the heat, I think an passage or two about the effect that these revelations bring upon the narrator<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">--</span>maybe the following changes are a bit radical, but I think if incorporated they can add a few more notches, or markings to the content depth.</p> <p>Original paragraph:</p> <p>To marvel in this pagan science,<br /> at brother, father, mother,<br /> is man's cosmic folly.<br /> Wonder, wonder:<br /> so beneath this sun<br /> I wonder, wonder why?<br /> to all the follies of man.</p> <p>Something along these lines might work a little bit better:</p> <p><em>To marvel in these pagan rituals<br /> at the shrouded remains of tritum<br /> overextending like an fissured petri dish<br /> or cathode beam arranging singular values<br /> crimson-ceylon riptide-cormorant jade&#8212;brothermotherfather<br /> prodigal-multipliers manifesting<br /> man's cosmic folly<br /> I wonder, wonder why?<br /> To all our shortcomings, cooling dissected<br /> in chain theories and<br /> formaldehyde</em></p> <p>To dissect the changes further, think of some scientific process that occurs much like some sun/star (I hope I don't sound like I'm writing the body of a PHD dissertation&#8212;I'm just an ordinary guy trying to study for a Comms degree lol), in this case I used the inner workings of an cathode ray tube TV and biological dissection to mimic the physical process of an star and evoke a 'sciency' tone, in a sense. Feel free to use my example, if you like! If you're unsure of the impact that it might have on the preceding/subsequent passages feel free to ask, I got some potential ideas.</p> 
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				<title>Re: crit request: Skyblaze, Helios, Astral Inferno</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2023 12:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I love the naming suggestions, will definitely play with them! Especially that first one caught my fancy, thank you. And you are somewhat right in thinking this is a sister piece to a greater whole, but it is in very very early stages in a word document somewhere in my secret cashe.<br /> Your input is as invaluable as ever, and your choke-hold on words and sentence structure is ever-enviable! But I believe that the poem has failed quite a bit, or at least has misdirected you, for it was never meant to be a work science fiction. Or at least not directly. Not men fighting in the stars, sailing great metal war machines to and fro, but rather a comparison drawn between:</p> <p>&#8212; Men fighting on earth, folly of follies, which the work states is the effect of wonder (science?)<br /> And,<br /> &#8212; Stars fighting in space, wonder, the cause of said follies.</p> <p>The posit that the stars 'fight' is rather fantastical, but intentionally so. Its characterization, personification. I think I've remixed some of the paragraphs to better convey this, and have pretty much adapted your suggestion on the 'science is wonder' paragraph, though I still think it could be spruced up. But do you think this comes across properly?</p> <p>Thanks again though, I think I'll keep this on the grill a little longer, if just to caramelize those oily secretions.</p> 
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				<title>Re: crit request: Skyblaze, Helios, Astral Inferno</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2023 03:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Due to the poem's rather brief length I don't have that much (in-depth ground) to cover—the bulk of the aspects I'm touching crit upon are, as with quite a bit of things, up to personal taste. Some alternative titles skimmed with the mesh sliced, braided together with a copper coat hanger from an abandoned screen door off the filtration pond of an deep fried ten PM brain:</p> <p><em>A Coda Of Fission</em></p> <p><em>Topical Reactions Like Sparklers</em></p> <p><em>A Fissure, Exothermic Mitosis in A Ribcage Of Phosphor</em></p> <p>To preface, I enjoyed the work, the way the paragraph and imagery<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">--</span>traces of mythology and fine-grain physics were arranged, interlaced between more poignant, punchy descriptions were reminiscent of older (fifties, sixties mid century) works—the stuff bound and laminated straight from snail-mail drafts postmarked with an curling iron, or mashed tobacco, amber spirits from a dust-laden fire escape, a chai stand in Kabul, Tehran—in the last rare days before the revolution or the rear deck of a Soviet liner off the Red Sea, cutting through coastal swells. For substance I would say for what its worth, it carries its own weight, maybe a bit sparse on the surface in terms of describing off-world warfare? I think maybe some descriptions are, if a bit vague, but of course, if its meant to be a appetizer or prelude/sister piece to another story then I'd for sure say that it's got enough meat.</p> <p>The imagery serves its intended purpose but yet strikes a balance as an overlay for other, more (more metaphysical, I believe that's the term) fronts. The only aspects that I would see enhanced or expanded upon via minor changes are pretty inconsequential, that being the lines: 'the ocean, or of a bright jewel', I think it would be a bit more fluid, or at the very least&#8212;aesthetically pleasing if the 'bright jewel' is to be reworked into something like <em>'the ocean, or of a jeweled scarab'</em>, the subsequent trailing line rearranged to reflect: <em>'sapphire and celluoid spinning</em> (or kneading, for a more 'plastic' action beat perhaps?)<em>in void'</em>.</p> <p>The passage: <em>'Science is wonder, is history</em><br /> <em>of great stellar wars,</em><br /> <em>battles fought with gravity</em><br /> <em>instead of guns.'</em> admittingly can use a bit of pep, it can possibly serve to be a bit more interesting if it's something along these lines&#8212;-</p> <p>'science is manufactured wonder, is history<br /> of great stellar wars<br /> offensives waged with titanium hulls<br /> imploding with<br /> gravity instead of molten lead'</p> <p>Other then that, however, I find it ready to go&#8212;it won't hurt, though to let it brew a little bit more if you see fit. Can't wait to see it up there!</p> 
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				<title>crit request: Skyblaze, Helios, Astral Inferno</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2023 12:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Under tab of the same name, here in the <a href="http://wanderers-sandbox-2.wikidot.com/oligarchbox2" target="_blank">sandbox!</a><br /> Short prose-poem, thought I'd subject it to the masses!</p> <ul> <li>Does it flow well?</li> <li>Does the message come across?</li> <li>Is it enough for the WL?</li> <li>Any better naming suggestions?</li> <li>Anything else/anything I missed?</li> </ul> <p>Thanks again! Love ya.<br /> &#8212;oli</p> 
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