MYSTERIES HUB PAGES

I'd think that this would make a better contest than permanent addition.

We have the Librarians page… and the FAQ page. Both of which aren't quite at a good level for letting people know what the world of the Library is even like.

Yep. It took me while to figure out what the library was. Those two pages really do nothing for understanding the universe. I feel like Introduction and The Universe should be added to the join the site reading list.

NEW INTRODUCTION PAGE

Just yep. Both of the recommendations sound like things that need to be done.

FAQ should be updated.

Yes, and there are unanswered questions on The Universe FAQ.

Need to make sure all pages that don't take place in the Foundationverse are under the correct license.
Need a licensing guide!

I feel like this is a pretty big one. (You know, legality and stuff)

RPG tied in with the site. Can have site articles written based on events or characters. Can reference or base plots on material from Library books (or Library books can be written that are made-up for the RPG!)

This seems like it'd be a fun way to accomplish the next goal. (This would also be something that I'd totally help with)

More site promotion.

We need more people. The RPG idea seems like it could help with this. This could be the kind of thing that could be semi-accomplished by going to a bunch of palaces on the internet (or IRL) and linking people here.

SCP Articles Annotated contest — Unscheduled. Copy SCP articles & heavily annotate them (by a Hand member, a Hand scholar, an independent Library scholar, or whatever).

This is a great contest idea.

I know I'm newish, so what I'm saying probably means almost nothing, but I thought I'd throw my two cents in. Also, I like to think of myself as mostly competent, so if you ever need someone to help with any of this stuff (especially time consuming simple tasks… people tell me that I'm good at keeping focused on these things) feel free to PM me. I'd probably be able to put in at least 4 hours a week.

… Jack if we can find him …

He's around here somewhere. : ) Seriously, I'd be willing to help out, but I've been reluctant to volunteer since school and work take up almost all of my free time. I don't want to commit to do something and then let everyone down.

Incidentally, I specifically came to this site because I wanted to write stuff that was not associated with a particular canon. I like to write canon stuff too, but random, unassociated stuff is important to how I see the Library.

As for the Indices of Worlds, or whatever we want to call them, I think it's a great idea. However, I would say that we should probably have standards similar to (but not as high as) the Canons for SCPF. So maybe something like two authors and at least three articles? Also, while I agree that the WL should aspire to become more than a dumping ground, I still like the idea of there being a place for random stuff like We Slipped Away. Not to say that there should be a focus on one to the exclusion of either, just that I'd be okay with striking a balance.

RE: The Archives, I'd be happy to help in any way I can. Let me know if this a "we'll assign you a thing" deal or a "step up and pick" deal. Either way, it sounds great.

As for contests, I think we're still a little bit inactive for a big-ass canon contest. There's probably enough people for ~2 teams, which would be kind of sad. Instead, I propose something a bit more modest that's along the same lines, like writing an article that takes place in the same universe as, with the same characters as, whatever, another article (preferably written by another author). Not a sequel contest, just a "can we explore this setting more?" contest.

http://pastebin.com/cFYwWYBn

http://wanderers-sandbox.wikidot.com/index

• http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Wiki/SCPFoundation
• http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_409_23-website-warning-labels-that-ought-to-exist_p23/#19
• http://io9.com/5476680/enter-the-scp-foundations-bottomless-catalog-of-the-weird

Also, please use the reply button when responding to a post.

…if a story uses elements from two stories, one under the first license, one under the second, which one takes precident?

I am not an IP lawyer, but I do know quite a bit about software copyrights, and this is very similar. If you produce a derivative work from two other works, you must abide by both licenses. It is never possible for one license to "infect" or override another. If the two original works have conflicting licenses (for example: CC BY-NC-SA 3.0 and CC BY-SA 3.0), then it is not possible to abide by both and you therefore have *no* right to distribute the derivative work.

Of course, you could always contact the original authors and ask them to re-license their work specifically for your story. Since the original author maintains rights to his own work (except in case of "work for hire"), he can issue as many licenses as he likes.

For example, if you wished to combine my character, Dale, from "Memories and Old Vinyl" (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0) with the environment of "The Fifth Syllable" (CC BY-SA 3.0), you would normally not be allowed to do it, because of the license conflict. However, I could issue you a special license, "I, Jack Manganese, do hereby give permission to Gaffney for the use of my character, Dale, in a story which can be licensed CC BY-SA 3.0." This does *not* change the license of "Memories and Old Vinyl", but it *does* put the character, Dale, under a less restrictive license and then anyone could use him under either license depending on which story they chose to license from.

That may seem a bit convoluted, but such things do happen in the world of IP (See MPL vs. GPL for an example of two open source licenses at odds.)

EDIT: For a more concrete example, consider the film, "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" The appearance of Bugs Bunny in that film was by a special license from Warner Brothers, and did not grant Disney any authority over the character other than to use him in that movie. The overall copyright status of the character did not change.

This is due to big movements at the SCP wiki, and the three Library admins are also most of active administration for the SCP wiki… XD

Of course, we knew this would happen and planned for it. That's why the timeline here is a whole year that hasn't even started yet.

However, the Serpent's Hand development specific stuff (Mysteries, Background Pages) are slotted to be dealt with first, possibly as early as mid-to-late December.

Keep comments coming if you have them! =)

ARCHIVES PAGE OVERHAUL
This is also a good idea; it’s high time that the Archives get more attention. I also think that emphasizing the in-universe part about it being a collection of information, rather than just “tales, but from the SH’s perspective,” will encourage people to experiment with formatting (something in archives being an interview, an annotated scrap book, etc.)

MYSTERIES HUB PAGES
This is cool, but I think we should wait until we have at least one article for each of the categories before going ahead with this. As I think someone else said, though, I don’t know that they each really merit their own page right now; I’d say slap ‘em on a single tabbed page and add a bit of writing at the top introducing the thing (in character, of course). I like the bit about the Nest people giving a baseline; it helps answer some of the stuff that’s on the Universe FAQ. In fact, maybe with the new Universe FAQ, answer questions about the rediscovery of the Library, origins of the SH, and origins of the Lirbary by linking to the Mysteries hub page.

BACKGROUND INFO PAGES
Holy shit, yes, update the FAQ. For the love of God, burn the current Universe FAQ to ashes and burn the ashes. I am okay with writing the Universe FAQ as in-character/not set-in-stone thing, but the stuff about magic and Ways and such seems a bit needless.

In addition, by establishing “this is how magic works,” it opens the possibility to “-1 because your story doesn’t have proper use of magic” bullshit later own. Not saying that it’ll happen, just that it’s the one thing tipping me towards negative on that issue that I would otherwise just consider to be unnecessary.

LICENSING
Yeah, licensing is… yeah. Not that it’s a huge issue now, but that really needs to get sorted out, sooner rather than later. As I understand it¹ we can use CCNCSA if so inclined, unless it’s something that includes foundationverse stuff (i.e. the Library/Ways/Archives/GsoI), in which case it’s just CCSA. Which asks the question, if a story uses elements from two stories, one under the first license, one under the second, which one takes precident? I suck at understanding copyright, but it does need to be clearer, to be sure.

OTHER STUFF
Contests look cool, RPG sounds fun, although I'm still not 100% on whether it'll be a PBP thing or another version of #serpentshand.

e: Also, pro-more diverse WL character roster as well. I think that as it is, there's a fairly decent mix in terms of one-off characters, but if we want to have semi-canon characters for the Nest, conscious steps should definitely be taken to avoid the situation at the Foundation, which is ~70% dude characters.

A. The Archives/Index

Okay so a huge issue that is the reason that we have very little in the Archives right now is because it makes sense to post stories about the Library on SCP, where you will get more readers. Rumetzen said that we should create our own "version" of the Hand that is distinct and will inspire people to write more here. I will be writing tales expanding the universe of the Library here as soon as I finish my current tale. Speaking of which, I think there is general consensus in chat that we definitely need more characters and collaborative universes, preferably both. I think IC pages related to both would be a bad idea because that might pigeon-hole some people into writing specific things when we're about freedom of format and writing.

B. Mystery Pages

I agree with roget on this one that this just seems like another archives, I don't see any reason for this to be its own thing. Sounds more like a contest idea than anything else.

C. Contests

Love the idea of cross-wiki contest, but I think we have a lot of contest ideas queued up at the moment and I think we definitely need to space them out so we're not always having a contest at every moment.

D. RPG

I think we should have a play-by-post (definitely what works best for me, I can check in once or twice a day, post, and not have to dedicate huge amounts of time) and a standard chat RP run by some dedicated members. Just like to point out that there have been SH RPs in the past and all have died, I would attribute this to most users being dedicated to other RPs and it's very hard to find time for two RPs at once.

E. FAQ and Introduction Updates

Please yes, the FAQs have been an issue with me for a while, just because of their general format and difficulties in navigation. I agree that the Orientation doesn't need a random page suggester, as that's what top rated is for. As to a Licensing guide, I do think we need to be a bit more clear how our licensing works, as at the moment it's a bit difficult to find information on it. Basically, I think we could simplify the learning process about the Library a lot and make it much more interesting.

I'll write more later as I think of it.

We may assign Task Forces to particular issues. Like, X people on a team to promote the site, Y people on a team to run an RP, that sort of thing. Putting in a separate post because it's something of an important topic.

Task Forces do not have to be staff, since we're a small, small site. However, they would be run by staff.

It also addresses a side-point: Everything on this site is under CC. Simply by posting it here you're giving up rights to it. That's far better to do if you're already writing in a shared, collaborative universe — which you wouldn't have exclusive publishing rights to anyway.

(not everyone is aware of the rights issue, of course, which is why we NEED a better licensing guide before we get any bigger — and why we NEED to make sure every currently posted article is listed under the correct license, since we have some erroneously listed under the wrong license.)

But I figure in-universe information would be better presented in-character, unlike the Universe FAQ. But we can also write writing guides and site guides and such that are OOC.

(Although I do not want to go the SCP-style Required Reading direction. Just throwing that out there.)

Well, I mean… our entire job is to help with stuff like this so you can focus more on the big picture :p

Of course, just clarifying. Admin-types do intend to do some stuff like write the initial Origin Story hub pages (assuming we go that direction).

I don't actually completely understand what the Nest is because as far as I know it hasn't come up when I've been online.

Sorry, didn't really explain this properly. It's a Spooky Power Group within the Hand, starring anomalous humanoid (nor non-humanoid) characters. OOC they're vaguely connected to / created by admins.

I think this may be slicing things too thinly. We run the risk of adding further confusion as to what is appropriate to put into the Archives. As of now I have no idea what should go there. This shift makes things…odd.

Honestly I think there's already pretty drastic confusion. Not entirely sure what difference this would make? (Although I'm certainly open to reconsidering).

I'm not sure we need individual hub pages for each Mystery.

I'm not set on having individual hub pages for each Mystery. It could just be one page for The Mysteries.

Or we could streamline all of those pages into a single tabbed page with OOC information that new authors could use which would give them a hard baseline of what this place is and what we do with OOC explanations of what all of the terms mean.

This has potential.

I'm not sure how comfortable I am with this. IC explanations are going to be messy and not terribly useful for new authors. If the IC explanation were provided in addition to an OOC newbie explanation I think that would be best for flavor and clarity purposes.

Except the OOC explanations we have suck (even though I enjoy the information in them, and mostly put it together).

I don't think that IC explanations are automatically bad. Works pretty well for the SCP Foundation, and there's no reason they can't bring a certain amount of clarity. An OOC writing guide (including a better version of the FAQ) could be a good additional idea, though.

Moose… have you not been paying attention? I gm. Lots. Come on man!

As do Roget and Soulless and others as well. ;) I know we have plenty of experienced RPers, that's why I mentioned that I felt we should be open to it. As this has not always been the case.

BUNTON:

Guides should be first and foremost OOC, clear, and concise, occupying as few pages as possible and being friendly to people entirely unfamiliar with the Library. They really should be direct and explanatory, rather than being a story.

I do not see any justification for the statement that all guides MUST be OOC. That isn't the case even now — see the Introduction, or About the SCP Foundation at the SCP wiki.

RUMETZEN:

How would we go about introducing the Nest?

Just via the hub pages (I and/or Troy/Mann can take care of this bit)

How would making the background pages be handled? Staff? Anyone who wants to make one? I feel like they would require more cohesion/organization than you would get from opening it to everybody, especially if it's supposed to serve as intro-level reading on the Hand. Though we should still leave the multiple interpretations aspects.

Primarily by staff, but we can leave certain bits open for additions (such as, say, a page about cataloguing magic systems or contradictory info about magic systems).

If we're going to go this route, I also feel we should step away from the "there is no canon" philosophy of the Foundation. Yes, we still want to play loose with it, but I think it would be best to establish more of a story focus/base than the Foundation does, especially as the Library as often treated a something that's unique among the various universes, unlike the Foundation. Obviously, there would still be plenty of room for mystery and interpretation though. Just my $0.02.

Not sure about this, although it's possible. Curious to hear input from Troy & Mann on that in particular.

We need a solid, clear licensing guide too, since that's much more important here than it is at the Foundation.

Yes. I'll edit that in.

Running live games along the SCP game derivative style wouldn't be that difficult if you want it to happen.

I know (although see Roget's comment).

It can be easier to respond to play-by-post forum RPs though (so long as they don't move extremely fast) — whereas typically I've been unable to join RPs because of not being able to make the times of the games & then falling out of it (although gods know if I'd have time for a forum RP either).

Agreeing with all of this, and Mann's idea. Guides should be first and foremost OOC, clear, and concise, occupying as few pages as possible and being friendly to people entirely unfamiliar with the Library. They really should be direct and explanatory, rather than being a story.

I also think the guides should really be consolidated, made easier to access and probably hubbed.

I like the proposed changes to the Index and Archives, though I'll echo Viv's sentiment that what the Archives are about needs to be unique to them and really, really clear, otherwise they'll fall into disuse.

Changed in-character conceit: The Index is run by the Serpent's Hand, and is a collection of knowledge gleaned from texts in the Library. Founded by L.S., but now run communally and/or by the Nest (new background characters). May be actually named The Index instead of The Library.

I think this may go a long way to simplifying our problem that we had earlier with developing a cohesive "about the WL" page earlier. I approve of the idea in so much as I understand it.

I don't actually completely understand what the Nest is because as far as I know it hasn't come up when I've been online.

Emphasize equally with The Index.
In-character conceit: The Archives are the collection of information (in story/interview/etc) form, maintained by a few of the Hand's "leaders" (the Nest), to create a living record of what's going on with the people in the Library, esp Hand members. The Hand has lost much information due to its splintered nature — the Archives are an attempt to counter that.

I'm all for trying to boost the archives but…

The Archives are for things that aren't. Stories that are just stories. Not fit in a book. Our equivalent to Tales, basically.

At this point we have an Index of stories+other things and we want to boost the Archive as a collection of a slightly different type of story or an IC collection of SH intel. I think this may be slicing things too thinly. We run the risk of adding further confusion as to what is appropriate to put into the Archives. As of now I have no idea what should go there. This shift makes things…odd.

Hub Pages on the Three Mysteries that concern the Serpent's Hand. Not the only mysteries, but the greatest. Everyone can submit stories to answer the Mysteries. Namely:What is the origin of the Serpent's Hand? What is the origin of the Library? What is the nature of the Hand's connection to the Library, and what occurred or did not occur during the Library's Rediscovery by the Hand?

I like the idea of having a -001 proposal equivalent on the site. I'm not sure we need individual hub pages for each Mystery. I think that if this is to be done there should be a general stipulation that the story deal with one or more of those mysteries with a critical eye for quality but if we hub all the sub mysteries we are going to end up with a confusing mess of menus to brows through.

BACKGROUND INFO PAGES: We have the Librarians page… and the FAQ page. Both of which aren't quite at a good level for letting people know what the world of the Library is even like. Potentially could have hub pages like the Mysteries hub pages, with, say, magic systems that the Hand are researching, or the nature of the Ways, or stuff like that? Maybe Greater and Lesser Mysteries? Dunno.

Or we could streamline all of those pages into a single tabbed page with OOC information that new authors could use which would give them a hard baseline of what this place is and what we do with OOC explanations of what all of the terms mean.

Universe FAQ should be reworked into an in-character thing (probably multiple in-character pieces), and much of it should be clarified as not-set-in-stone.

I'm not sure how comfortable I am with this. IC explanations are going to be messy and not terribly useful for new authors. If the IC explanation were provided in addition to an OOC newbie explanation I think that would be best for flavor and clarity purposes.

NEW INTRODUCTION PAGE

Yes. Definitely. Possibly with links to the IC intro page(s).

Orientation Page could be set to suggest a random selection of highly rated stories? Maybe? Dunno.

Yes.

An RPG tied in with the site. Can have site articles written based on events or characters. Can reference or base plots on material from Library books (or Library books can be written that are made-up for the RPG!)

Moose… have you not been paying attention? I gm. Lots. Come on man!

Rume is right that play-by-posts are not ideal for attracting new people, but they can increase forum activity from already existing members by giving them something extra that's fun to do. And they can inspire new content for the Library & Archives. It's hard to see that as a bad thing :)

I'd like to believe that you all will be able to commit the time to see any and all of these proposals to fruition

It's literally our job as admins to devote some time to projects such as these, whether or not the community agrees with everything I have proposed. I'm giving an extremely liberal timeline to compensate for time issues. :)

Also, to be clear, some of this is just opening up possibilities, such as the RPG thing. I doubt I will personally be devoting time to that project (I intend to devote time to other projects, such as the Origin Story stuff & background info pages).

And: Thank you for the offer of assistance! =) Assistance from any member, especially staff, is welcome. As are ideas.

Don't mind spaced-out contests, either. I'm not expecting things to be rushed or happen at a breakneck pace. Not here in the Library, anyway.

Regarding L. S: I don't think he should be used too often, but it's ultimately up to Mann and whoever wishes to write with him.

I'd like to believe that you all will be able to commit the time to see any and all of these proposals to fruition, and I sincerely hope you're able to do so. If you need any help with stuff, I am always available for assistance. You know how to reach me if I'm not on chat and such.

I am extremely interested in a CYOA, even though I didn't put that on the list.

There's plenty of room for stuff that's just sitting in the Library, as opposed to stuff that was collected by the Hand. (Then again, a lot of things could fall under that category.)

I would argue literally everything that already exists or that one could imagine putting in the Library section would fall under that category.

I humbly suggest a crossover-with-other-media contest like they had at the Foundation site.

Am I going really spacey? Because I don't remember this one…

I have reached out to a few people who qualified for author pages in the past, but none of them seemed particularly interested in compiling one. if you'd like me to reach out to these people again, see what their thoughts are now, and maybe push the issue a little more persistently, I can do that. Perhaps we could have a section in the members pages for people with fewer than three stories, still crediting them similar to how the tales page works.

This all sounds fine — although I don't think we need to start pushing people to make author pages immediately. It's true I didn't put a timeline here, but: I see this as coming later in the process (if it's done).

Interesting idea, not sure it won't become another archives in practice. Might be better to just make a new book concerning the mysteries, see if people want to add to that. It'd certainly be less intimidating than adding to a new section.

I don't know that a new book concerning the mysteries is a good idea, because it could get lost in the other books we have already. And I dunno that the intimidation factor is something to be concerned with. Not really sure how it would become another Archives, unless you mean 'people just don't add to it' or something. (If so, there are ways around that.)

Also of note, a lot of the IC conceits have been about the hand not knowing things. I'd like to see some more stuff detailing the knowledge the hand actually has. It's a bit tiresome for every IC conceit to be "we had this info, then we lost it. Now we don't know shit."

That's exactly what I'm going for here, though. That's why the hub pages would have material explaining what the Hand DOES know (or thinks they know). This can also provide a loose, optional framework for people to start with.

And the rest is covered in the background pages.

Part of the issue is that you can't set down too much without fucking up multi-canon or unduly limiting writers.

Also, the focus on L.S seems a bit odd, since in practice he's almost never used in stories. In fact, I'd like to promote people using him more, as he's an interesting character within the library, rather than abandoning the concept altogether.

L.S. is Doxy's character. Doxy isn't around. Therefore I basically want to get away from the idea of the Hand being centered around L.S., which plastering his name over the wiki doesn't help.

I don't honestly think it's a great idea to promote him being used more, but Mann would be a much better choice to weigh in on that.

"An RPG" is incredibly vague. Do you mean resurrecting the old SHRP, or actually making a tabletop game, or what?

Neither. This is one of the vaguest ideas on the list, but a RP actually connected to the site could be a good idea — if the playerbase is there. I didn't expect Dexanote, you, or I (nor likely Mann) to run the game. Just intending to express that we're open to the creation of one (which hasn't seemed to be the case in the past).

edit: also, I do not agree that it requires that experienced GMs jump on board for this.

Regarding contests: On both sites, the rule is no more than four contests per year. An overlapping contest would take two 'slots'. Also, we wouldn't necessarily do all of these, and it's incredibly unlikely that we'd do all the suggested ones within one year.

My only concern is the fact that numerous projects are already on hole because of the admins being busy, and I don't want them to languish in development hell.

You're talking about the SCP wiki, though. Due to the SCP wiki I've done almost nothing on this site for … I don't know how long. The same goes for other admins. This is but a small attempt at rectifying this, and the timeline for these proposals is literally "do it over the next year". (Well, year and 2 months.) I think we're safe on that front.

EDIT: Also, I should clarify. Many of these ideas, if not most, have been languishing in my Library To-Do file for months, in some cases over a year. The remainder of the ideas are based on recent feedback from Troy & Mann on a piece I wrote months ago. It's hard for me to see how this could be put any more on hold than it already is, without simply doing nothing at all.

Put another way: It's not like I ditched projects on the SCP wiki and have been devoting the last week or two to this project, I just spent 40 minutes in a frenzy last night throwing together months of material into a readable form, then tossed it up here. So yeah. To me this is mostly long overdue.

These changes seem fine, and I have no strong feelings about them. I don't think it would have a particularly strong impact on the stories people write here, or how our little community works.

Archive Page Overhaul

I have reached out to a few people who qualified for author pages in the past, but none of them seemed particularly interested in compiling one. if you'd like me to reach out to these people again, see what their thoughts are now, and maybe push the issue a little more persistently, I can do that. Perhaps we could have a section in the members pages for people with fewer than three stories, still crediting them similar to how the tales page works.

If Mann's concerns are met, seeing as he's the guy who started the archives, I'd be cool with it. I have no strong feelings on how the archives should be run, though. They're quite underused right now, so anything to give them more stories or to just promote their existence would be very cool indeed.

Mystery Hub

Interesting idea, not sure it won't become another archives in practice. Might be better to just make a new book concerning the mysteries, see if people want to add to that. It'd certainly be less intimidating than adding to a new section. Also of note, a lot of the IC conceits have been about the hand not knowing things. I'd like to see some more stuff detailing the knowledge the hand actually has. It's a bit tiresome for every IC conceit to be "we had this info, then we lost it. Now we don't know shit."

Background Info Pages

These could be fun, but you'd have to push for them to be actually used and visible without being restrictive to what people can write. I agree the universe FAQ and such could use an overhaul or replacement, just be careful you don't go too far in the other direction and make new boundaries which frustrate people. Also, the focus on L.S seems a bit odd, since in practice he's almost never used in stories. In fact, I'd like to promote people using him more, as he's an interesting character within the library, rather than abandoning the concept altogether.

New Introduction Page

This seems fine. I have no strong feelings on it one way or the other.

OTHER NOTES

FAQ could be updated, yeah.

The top rated pages are so sparse, you'd probably be getting the same pool of fifteen stories every time, and even if you made the pool larger, it'd just be showing normal stories at which point the top rated page is right there for anyone to peruse.

I've never cared about licensing, so I have no feelings on this at all.

THE FUTURE

"An RPG" is incredibly vague. Do you mean resurrecting the old SHRP, or actually making a tabletop game, or what? If it's the former, then we'd need to find some GM's familiar with the hand who are also able to GM, in addition to a playerbase who can play regularly. I know myself and Dexanote both run our own games, and Vivax has graduate school. DrMann was already too busy to run in the first time, and I know for a fact Troy and yourself don't have time for it.

I am willing to pimp with the best of them. However, we should be careful to make it not seem like the triumvirate are pushing their pet project on the SCP Wiki. The contest is probably the best direction to promote things like this, I don't want to go overkill on it and turn people off the project from excessive pestering.

Contests

Most of these sound fine, as long as they're properly spaced out. My only concern is the fact that numerous projects are already on hole because of the admins being busy, and I don't want them to languish in development hell. Might be better to focus on one, maybe two contests, perhaps having the cross scp/wl contest and a just wl contest, and keep the others in our back pocket for later.

We could also create notability ourselves…

If we're going to go this route, I also feel we should step away from the "there is no canon" philosophy of the Foundation

My view of the Library has always been that there is a canon, but we can only view it by way of an unreliable narrator.

The content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself. […]
The website or content has won a well-known and independent award from either a publication or organization.

Now, to my knowledge the SCP Foundation hasn't met either of these two criteria, while the WL definitely hasn't. Other than being mentioned in passing by articles discussing Containment Breach (which definitely qualify as "trivial" mentions), it hasn't really had any "official" coverage.

Everything else in moose's proposal is pretty damn good, in my view, and I support the lot of it. I humbly suggest a crossover-with-other-media contest like they had at the Foundation site.

As for Library games…I support an RPG. I also support a CYOA, which I figure is inevitable at some point. Bunton and I are (slowly) working on a text adventure. I saw a first-person Containment Breach-like game being suggested in the IRC channel, which I'd really like, but this would obviously be the most complicated. I feel a mix of wandering/exploring combined with some CB-like horror and occasional shooting would work for it, but this is probably the first time it's even been mentioned here and if this is going to be made a lot of work and refinement is going to be necessary.

While we're on the subject, Reject mentioned (also in the IRC) the possibility of making a Wikipedia article for the WL, and possibly the SCP Foundation. There's already an article for Containment Breach, but it has a number of issues. We could improve that article as well as make an article for the Foundation and WL (I imagine they would both be covered in the same article).

Also: Thoughts on the rest of it?

OH ALSO: Full disclosure to everyone else — many of the ideas listed here come from Mann or Troy as well as myself (although for the bad ideas, assume it's me :P)